Rudy Giuliani told Lara Logan that he had concluded the events of Jan. 6, 2021, were a “fixed operation” before he went to sleep that night. The former New York City mayor and Trump attorney made the claim during Saturday night’s premiere of American Martyrs in West Palm Beach, Florida.
The conversation tied Giuliani’s belief to Capitol security failures, then widened into allegations about Barack Obama and the 2020 election. Giuliani also rejected the idea that Trump was present to incite a riot, saying he was trying to get Vice President Mike Pence to pause the count.
Security failures shaped his conclusion
Logan challenged Giuliani on how the Capitol could have been left so exposed. She said she had asked Bernard Kerik, the former NYPD commissioner who later worked with Giuliani on 2020 election files, what a law enforcement team would have done to protect the building. Kerik’s answer, as Logan relayed it, was to place mounted officers around the Capitol.
Logan said Kerik viewed one mounted officer as roughly equal to three officers on foot. The point was offered as evidence that basic security measures had not been used, alongside other steps a serious police department might have taken.
The discussion also referenced a Fox News report about leaked footage recorded by Nancy Pelosi’s daughter. In the video, Pelosi was said to have stated, “I take responsibility,” after the security breakdown. The account further said White House records showed that Pelosi rejected an offer from Trump for 10,000 National Guard troops before Jan. 6.
Former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund has said he began seeking Guard help at 12:58 p.m. and made 11 urgent calls. He said approval did not arrive for 71 minutes, and that the decision ran through the House Sergeant at Arms, who reported to Pelosi. Those details formed the basis for Giuliani’s argument that Jan. 6 was not simply an uncontrolled riot.
Giuliani also blamed Obama
When Logan asked which signs convinced him, Giuliani said he now agreed completely with General Flynn that Barack Obama was responsible for “the darkest hours in American history.” He also called Obama an “anti-president,” saying he now viewed earlier concerns he once considered exaggerated as much more serious.
Giuliani connected that accusation to what he described as a communist plan to overthrow the United States.
Election disputes were part of his explanation
Giuliani then returned to his role as Trump’s impeachment lawyer. He said four state legislatures had asked Pence to hold off, and described Georgia and Pennsylvania submissions as “ironclad,” Arizona as “very, very cozy,” and Wisconsin’s election as “completely illegal.” Those labels were Giuliani’s, not neutral descriptions.
His Wisconsin argument centered on absentee ballot affidavits. Giuliani said state law required one and that a ballot without it should be canceled. He claimed Trump would have won if every ballot missing an affidavit had been removed. The Wisconsin Supreme Court, according to the account, called that penalty too harsh, while Giuliani called the ruling “absurd.”
For Pennsylvania, Giuliani cited roughly 900,000 ballots that he said were counted without a Republican inspector being able to observe the process effectively. He described one Republican official sitting in a room comparable to a basketball arena, far from the count, and repeated a judge’s criticism that the official had been reduced to “a potted plant.”
Source: The Gateway Pundit
